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On consecutive days, February 1 and 2, clouds with optical depths less than 0.03 were encountered in the tropopause region between 17 and 18 km, with an average temperature of -85°C and a relative humidity with respect to ice (RHI) of approximately 140%. On the first of these flights, the aircraft measured its own contrail within this same temperature and RHI regime. A comparison of the microphysical properties of the cirrus and contrails showed that the majority of particles were less than 40 μm and 50% of the particles were sphere-like. The principle difference between the subvisual cirrus and contrails was found in the spatial distribution of the particles. Those in the subvisual cirrus had randomly uniform spatial distributions whereas the particles in the contrail appeared more organized with non-random spacing that could indicate clustering. Of the particles that were classified as sphere-like, approximately 20% had refractive indices representative of ice, i.e. in the range 1.31-1.33. The other sphere-like particles had average refractive indices of 1.40 and 1.54. The frequency distribution of the refractive indices of particles in the cirrus and contrail were quite similar. In this presentation we discuss the processes that could lead to mixed-phase cirrus and contrail at the tropical tropopause and the implications for heterogeneous chemical reactions, climate impact and interpretation of satellite measurements.