For both NAVGEM and COAMPS, comparison of the fixed and observed SST integrations indicate that the fixed SST has a small impact on the precipitation and wind biases for the first two weeks, but has a substantial impact after that. For NAVGEM, SST also has a large impact on land surface temperature, demonstrating the propagation of the SST influence from ocean areas to land areas. NAVGEM forecasts started at different times during the month of November indicate some skill in predicting the MJO evolution if the forecast is started during the MJO event. For COAMPS, comparison of the 27-km and 45-km resolution experiments indicates that while the 27-km simulation outperforms the 45-km simulation for OLR, the advantages of higher resolution for other metrics are unclear. The 45-km simulation has smaller errors for the wind and precipitation fields. Examination of time-longitude diagrams of equatorial precipitation shows that the 45-km COAMPS simulation with observed SST and analyzed lateral boundary conditions has a remarkably good representation of the late-November Madden Julian Oscillation (MJO). The 45-km simulation with fixed SST, and the 27-km simulations, had weaker representations of the MJO. Overall the results demonstrate the importance of accurate SSTs for predictions beyond weather time scales of 1-2 weeks for both the global and mesoscale forecast systems.